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kaitak
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Trump seeks help from Putin ... even now.

Wed Mar 30, 2022 1:27 am

It's unbelievable that even after what Putin has done in Russia, upending the lives of millions and killing thousands, not to mention losing thousands of his own troops, Putin is now being called upon by Trump to release dirt on Hunter Biden and (Trump hopes) the President himself.

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/03/29/poli ... index.html

This interview was released on Monday. I had thought that Trump was trying to walk back his support for Putin, albeit rather lamely, but now there's this. Does the man have absolutely no cop-on or realisation of who is he asking for this information? Has he even stopped to consider what value that information, coming from such a man, would have in US politics? There has to be something seriously, morally or even intellectually, wrong with someone who would do something like this. And then, you have to ask, at what stage do the Republicans start condemning him or calling him out. I have heard very little, if any, criticism. I find this as disturbing as the act itself.
 
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Re: Trump seeks help from Putin ... even now.

Wed Mar 30, 2022 1:58 am

And thus the Trump Cycle continues. It works like this:
1. Trump says or does something either horrible, ridiculous, or both.
2. His flunkies, observing the reaction to whatever he just said or did, urge him to reconsider.
3. Trump reads a speech or issues a statement that tries to soften, rationalize, or retract whatever it was he said or did. This will be obviously written by someone else, and delivered with all the verve of your typical hostage video.
4. His flunkies, satisfied, get distracted and go do something else.
5. At his next public appearance Trump suggests that actually, whatever he said or did during Step 1 was cool and good, and he was right all along.
6. Return to Step 1 with some other topic.
 
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DarkSnowyNight
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Re: Trump seeks help from Putin ... even now.

Wed Mar 30, 2022 4:09 am

Cannot decide whether to laugh or continue to not be surprised...
 
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Re: Trump seeks help from Putin ... even now.

Wed Mar 30, 2022 4:34 am

kaitak wrote:
Has he even stopped to consider what value that information, coming from such a man, would have in US politics? There has to be something seriously, morally or even intellectually, wrong with someone who would do something like this


No, and yes. These are known quantities of Trump for years now. It's never about country, or truth, or 'what's right'. Just advancing his personal agenda, whatever that is - in this case, spite.
 
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Re: Trump seeks help from Putin ... even now.

Wed Mar 30, 2022 4:38 am

What's even funnier (and by funnier I mean tragic), is that the whole far-right cabal has now somehow tied the Hunter Biden laptop conspiracy to the Ukraine biolab conspiracy, the whole thing being fed to them straight from Russia...

Russia's continuing grip on the far-right in the US is rather astonishing. Watching clips of Tucker Carlson pushing Kremlin propaganda or Trump being seemingly physically unable to not shower Putin with praise at every occasion he gets was rather was rather disturbing in the past few years. Now it's downright alarming.
 
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Re: Trump seeks help from Putin ... even now.

Wed Mar 30, 2022 4:40 am

Francoflier wrote:
What's even funnier (and by funnier I mean tragic), is that the whole far-right cabal has now somehow tied the Hunter Biden laptop conspiracy to the Ukraine biolab conspiracy, the whole thing being fed to them straight from Russia...

Russia's continuing grip on the far-right in the US is rather astonishing. Watching clips of Tucker Carlson pushing Kremlin propaganda or Trump being seemingly physically unable to not shower Putin with praise at every occasion he gets was rather was rather disturbing in the past few years. Now it's downright alarming.


You have to tip your cap - they're not very good at ground invasion or strategy, but they are masters of disinformation and sowing discord.
 
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Re: Trump seeks help from Putin ... even now.

Wed Mar 30, 2022 5:40 am

This is almost like treason. Disgusting!
Let’s hope the Republicans will nominate Nikki Haley for the next elections and then we don’t have to hear anything about this narcissist anymore …
 
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Re: Trump seeks help from Putin ... even now.

Wed Mar 30, 2022 7:32 am

N14AZ wrote:
This is almost like treason. Disgusting!
Let’s hope the Republicans will nominate Nikki Haley for the next elections and then we don’t have to hear anything about this narcissist anymore …


Unfortunately, Trump and his deranged support base will ensure that doesn't happen.
 
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Re: Trump seeks help from Putin ... even now.

Wed Mar 30, 2022 7:52 am

Oh boy, this man clearly believes he's the center of the universe doesn't he, and everything happening in the world is always about him and him alone, isn't it?

Other than that obviously patheric observation, it's eye watering to see how a former US President (and by extension a whole political party almost) keeps being played like a fiddle by the Kremlin.

it's getting to the point where you have to ask where there allegiance truly is....

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